Wednesday, August 20, 2014

Heading Toward The Sidewalk

Talking about historical change is one thing when the changes under discussion are at some convenient remove in the past or the future. It’s quite another when the changes are already taking place. That’s one of the things that adds complexity to the project of this blog, because the decline and fall of modern industrial civilization isn’t something that might take place someday, if X or Y or Z happens or doesn’t happen; it’s under way now, all around us, and a good many of the tumults of our time are being driven by the unmentionable but inescapable fact that the process of decline is beginning to pick up speed.

Those tumults are at least as relevant to this blog’s project as the comparable events in the latter years of dead civilizations, and so it’s going to be necessary now and then to pause the current sequence of posts, set aside considerations of the far future for a bit, and take a look at what’s happening here and now. This is going to be one of those weeks, because a signal I’ve been expecting for a couple of years now has finally showed up, and its appearance means that real trouble may be imminent.

This has admittedly happened in a week when the sky is black with birds coming home to roost. I suspect that most of my readers have been paying at least some attention to the Ebola epidemic now spreading across West Africa. Over the last week, the World Health Organization has revealed that official statistics on the epidemic’s toll are significantly understated, the main nongovernmental organization fighting Ebola has admitted that the situation is out of anyone’s control, and a series of events neatly poised between absurdity and horror—a riot in one of Monrovia’s poorest slums directed at an emergency quarantine facility, in which looters made off with linens and bedding contaminated with the Ebola virus, and quarantined patients vanished into the crowd—may shortly plunge Liberia into scenes of a kind not witnessed since the heyday of the Black Death. The possibility that this outbreak may become a global pandemic, while still small, can no longer be dismissed out of hand.

Meanwhile, closer to home, what has become a routine event in today’s America—the casual killing of an unarmed African-American man by the police—has blown up in a decidedly nonroutine fashion, with imagery reminiscent of Cairo’s Tahrir Square being enacted night after night in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, Missouri. The culture of militarization and unaccountability that’s entrenched in urban police forces in the United States has been displayed in a highly unflattering light, as police officers dressed for all the world like storm troopers on the set of a bad science fiction movie did their best to act the part, tear-gassing and beating protesters, reporters, and random passersby in an orgy of jackbooted enthusiasm blatant enough that Tea Party Republicans have started to make worried speeches about just how closely this resembles the behavior of a police state.

If the police keep it up, the Arab Spring of a few years back may just be paralleled by an American Autumn. Even if some lingering spark of common sense on the part of state and local authorities heads off that possibility, the next time a white police officer guns down an African-American man for no particular reason—and there will be a next time; such events, as noted above, are routine in the United States these days—the explosion that follows will be even more severe, and the risk that such an explosion may end up driving the emergence of a domestic insurgency is not small. I noted in a post a couple of years back that the American way of war pretty much guarantees that any country conquered by our military will pup an insurgency in short order thereafter; there’s a great deal of irony in the thought that the importation of the same model of warfare into police practice in the US may have exactly the same effect here.

It may come as a surprise to some of my readers that the sign I noted is neither of these things. No, it’s not the big volcano in Iceland that’s showing worrying signs of blowing its top, either. It’s an absurdly little thing—a minor book review in an otherwise undistinguished financial-advice blog—and it matters only because it’s a harbinger of something considerably more important.

A glance at the past may be useful here. On September 9, 1929, no less a financial periodical than Barron’s took time off from its usual cheerleading of the stock market’s grand upward movement to denounce an investment analyst named Roger Babson in heated terms. Babson’s crime? Suggesting that the grand upward movement just mentioned was part of a classic speculative bubble, and the bubble’s inevitable bust would cause an economic depression. Babson had been saying this sort of thing all through the stock market boom of the late 1920s, and until that summer, the mainstream financial media simply ignored him, as they ignored everyone else whose sense of economic reality hadn’t gone out to lunch and forgotten to come back.

For those who followed the media, in fact, the summer and fall of 1929 were notable mostly for the fact that a set of beliefs that most people took for granted—above all else, the claim that the stock market could keep on rising indefinitely—suddenly were being loudly defended all over the place, even though next to nobody was attacking them. The June issue of The American Magazine featured an interview with financier Bernard Baruch, insisting that “the economic condition of the world seems on the verge of a great forward movement.” In the July 8 issue of Barron’s, similarly, an article insisted that people who worried about how much debt was propping up the market didn’t understand the role of broker’s loans as a major new investment outlet for corporate money.

As late as October 15, when the great crash was only days away, Professor Irving Fisher of Yale’s economics department made his famous announcement to the media: “Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau.” That sort of puffery was business as usual, then as now. Assaulting the critics of the bubble in print, by name, was not. It was only when the market was sliding toward the abyss of the 1929 crash that financial columnists publicly trained their rhetorical guns on the handful of people who had been saying all along that the boom would inevitably bust.

That’s a remarkably common feature of speculative bubbles, and could be traced in any number of historical examples, starting with the tulip bubble in the 17th century Netherlands and going on from there. Some of my readers may well have experienced the same thing for themselves in the not too distant past, during the last stages of the gargantuan real estate bubble that popped so messily in 2008. I certainly did, and a glance back at that experience will help clarify the implications of the signal I noticed in the week just past.

Back when the real estate bubble was soaring to vertiginous and hopelessly unsustainable heights, I used to track its progress on a couple of news aggregator sites, especially Keith Brand’s lively HousingPanic blog. Now and then, as the bubble peaked and began losing air, I would sit down with a glass of scotch, a series of links to the latest absurd comments by real estate promoters, and my copy of John Kenneth Galbraith’s The Great Crash 1929—the source, by the way, of the anecdotes cited above—and enjoyed watching the rhetoric used to insist that the 2008 bubble wasn’t a bubble duplicate, in some cases word for word, the rhetoric used for the same purpose in 1929.

All the anti-bubble blogs fielded a steady stream of hostile comments from real estate investors who apparently couldn’t handle the thought that anyone might question their guaranteed ticket to unearned wealth, and Brand’s in particular saw no shortage of bare-knuckle verbal brawls. It was only in the last few months before the bubble burst, though, that pro-bubble blogs started posting personal attacks on Brand and his fellow critics, denouncing them by name in heated and usually inaccurate terms. At the time, I noted the parallel with the Barron’s attack on Roger Babson, and wondered if it meant the same thing; the events that followed showed pretty clearly that it did.

That same point may just have arrived in the fracking bubble—unsurprisingly, since that has followed the standard trajectory of speculative booms in all other respects so far. For some time now, the media has been full of proclamations about America’s allegely limitless petroleum supply, which resemble nothing so much as the airy claims about stocks made by Bernard Baruch and Irving Fisher back in 1929. Week after week, bloggers and commentators have belabored the concept of peak oil, finding new and ingenious ways to insist that it must somehow be possible to extract infinite amounts of oil from a finite planet; oddly enough, though it’s rare for anyone to speak up for peak oil on these forums, the arguments leveled against it have been getting louder and more shrill as time passes. Until recently, though, I hadn’t encountered the personal attacks that announce the imminence of the bust.

That was before this week. On August 11th, a financial-advice website hosted a fine example of the species, and rather to my surprise—I’m hardly the most influential or widely read critic of the fracking bubble, after all—it was directed at me.

Mind you, I have no objection to hostile reviews of my writing. A number of books by other people have come in for various kinds of rough treatment on this blog, and turnabout here as elsewhere is fair play. I do prefer reviewers, hostile or otherwise, to take the time to read a book of mine before they review it, but that’s not something any writer can count on; reviewers who clearly haven’t so much as opened the cover of the book on which they pass judgment have been the target of barbed remarks in literary circles since at least the 18th century. Still, a review of a book the reviewer hasn’t read is one thing, and a review of a book the author hasn’t written and the publisher hasn’t published is something else again.

That’s basically the case here. The reviewer, a stock market blogger named Andew McKillop, set out to critique a newly re-edited version of my 2008 book The Long Descent. That came as quite a surprise to me, as well as to New Society Publications, the publisher of the earlier book, since no such reissue exists. The Long Descent remains in print in its original edition, and my six other books on peak oil and the future of industrial society are, ahem, different books.

My best guess is that McKillop spotted my new title Decline and Fall: The End of Empire and the Future of Democracy in 21st Century America in a bookshop window, and simply jumped to the conclusion that it must be a new release of the earlier book. I’m still not sure whether the result counts as a brilliant bit of surrealist performance art or a new low in what we still jokingly call journalistic ethics; in either case, it’s definitely broken new ground. Still, I hope that McKillop does better research for the people who count on him for stock advice.

Given that starting point, the rest of the review is about what you would expect. I gather that McKillop read a couple of online reviews of The Long Descent and a couple more of Decline and Fall, skimmed over a few randomly chosen posts on this blog, tossed the results together all anyhow, and jumped to the conclusion that the resulting mess was what the book was about. The result is quite a lively little bricolage of misunderstandings, non sequiturs, and straightforward fabrications—I invite anyone who cares to make the attempt to point out the place in my writings, for example, where I contrast catabolic collapse with “anabolic collapse,” whatever on earth that latter might be.

There’s a certain wry amusement to be had from going through the review and trying to figure out exactly how McKillop might have gotten this or that bit of misinformation wedged into his brain, but I’ll leave that as a party game for my readers. The point I’d like to make here is that the appearance of this attempted counterblast in a mainstream financial blog is a warning sign. It suggests that the fracking boom, like previous bubbles when they reached the shoot-the-messenger stage, may well be teetering on the brink of a really spectacular crash—and it’s not the only such sign, either.

The same questions about debt that were asked about the stock market in 1929 and the housing market in 2008 are being asked now, with increasing urgency, about the immense volume of junk bonds that are currently propping up the shale boom. Meanwhile gas and oil companies are having to drill ever more frantically and invest ever more money to keep production rates from dropping like a rock Get past the vacuous handwaving about “Saudi America,” and it’s embarrassingly clear that the fracking boom is simply one more debt-fueled speculative orgy destined for one more messy bust. It’s disguised as an energy revolution in exactly the same way that the real estate bubble was disguised as a housing revolution, the tech-stock bubble as a technological revolution, and so on back through the annals of financial delusion as far as you care to go.

Sooner or later—and much more likely sooner than later—the fracking bubble is going to pop. Just how and when that will happen is impossible to know in advance. Even making an intelligent guess at this point would require a detailed knowledge of which banks and investment firms have gotten furthest over their heads in shale leases and the like, which petroleum and natural gas firms have gone out furthest on a financial limb, and so on. That’s the kind of information that the companies in question like to hide from one another, not to mention the general public; it’s thus effectively inaccessible to archdruids, which means that we’ll just have to wait for the bankruptcies, the panic selling, and the wet thud of financiers hitting Wall Street sidewalks to find out which firms won the fiscal irresponsibility sweepstakes this time around.

One way or another, the collapse of the fracking boom bids fair to deliver a body blow to the US economy, at a time when most sectors of that economy have yet to recover from the bruising they received at the hands of the real estate bubble and bust. Depending on how heavily and cluelessly foreign banks and investors have been sucked into the boom—again, hard to say without inside access to closely guarded financial information—the popping of the bubble could sucker-punch national economies elsewhere in the world as well. Either way, it’s going to be messy, and the consequences will likely include a second helping of the same unsavory stew of bailouts for the rich, austerity for the poor, bullying of weaker countries by their stronger neighbors, and the like, that was dished up with such reckless abandon in the aftermath of the 2008 real estate bust. Nor is any of this going to make it easier to deal with potential pandemics, simmering proto-insurgencies in the American heartland, or any of the other entertaining consequences of our headfirst collision with the sidewalks of reality.

The consequences may go further than this. The one detail that sets the fracking bubble apart from the real estate bubble, the tech stock bubble, and their kin further back in economic history is that fracking wasn’t just sold to investors as a way to get rich quick; it was also sold to them, and to the wider public as well, as a way to evade the otherwise inexorable reality of peak oil. 2008, it bears remembering, was not just the year that the real estate bubble crashed, and dragged much of the global economy down with it; it was also the year when all those prophets of perpetual business as usual who insisted that petroleum would never break $60 a barrel or so got to eat crow, deep-fried in light sweet crude, when prices spiked upwards of $140 a barrel. All of a sudden, all those warnings about peak oil that experts had been issuing since the 1950s became a great deal harder to dismiss out of hand.

The fracking bubble thus had mixed parentage; its father may have been the same merciless passion for fleecing the innocent that always sets the cold sick heart of Wall Street aflutter, but its mother was the uneasy dawn of recognition that by ignoring decades of warnings and recklessly burning through the Earth’s finite reserves of fossil fuels just as fast as they could be extracted, the industrial world has backed itself into a corner from which the only way out leads straight down. White’s Law, one of the core concepts of human ecology, points out that economic development is directly correlated with energy per capita; as depletion overtakes production and energy per capita begins to decline, the inevitable result is a long era of economic contraction, in which a galaxy of economic and cultural institutions predicated on continued growth will stop working, and those whose wealth and influence depend on those institutions will be left with few choices short of jumping out a Wall Street window.

The last few years of meretricious handwaving about fracking as the salvation of our fossil-fueled society may thus mark something rather more significant than another round of the pervasive financial fraud that’s become the lifeblood of the US economy in these latter days. It’s one of the latest—and maybe, just maybe, one of the last—of the mental evasions that people in the industrial world have used in the futile but fateful attempt to pretend that pursuing limitless economic growth on a finite and fragile planet is anything other than a guaranteed recipe for disaster. When the fracking bubble goes to its inevitable fate, and most of a decade of babbling about limitless shale oil takes its proper place in the annals of human idiocy, it’s just possible that some significant number of people will realize that the universe is under no obligation to provide us will all the energy and other resources we want, just because we happen to want them. I wouldn’t bet the farm on that, but I think the possibility is there.

One swallow does not a summer make, mind you, and one fumbled attempt at a hostile book review on one website doesn’t prove that the same stage in the speculative bubble cycle that saw frantic denunciations flung at Roger Babson and Keith Brand—the stage that comes immediately before the crash—has arrived this time around. I would encourage my readers to watch for similar denunciations aimed at more influential and respectable fracking-bubble critics such as Richard Heinberg or Kurt Cobb. Once those start showing up, hang onto your hat; it’s going to be a wild ride.

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markbc said...

I have lots of thoughts but the one that might be worth sharing is that I think it's pretty clear that the Fed / Exchange Stabilization Fund manipulates the price of oil lower, as they have basically admitted that they manipulate every other market (EXCEPT precious metals of course, lol). Their main goal is to manipulate prices of commodities and gold lower and to prop up the bond, stock and real estate markets. This manipulation is done to try to maintain consumption by average folk and to contribute to the Keynesian wealth effect, whereby they believe that if consumers think they are wealthy then they will spend, which then stimulates the economy to "produce" more and people actually will be wealthier. And the economy will grow as well.

Unfortunately, for reasons we are all familiar with here, that strategy won't work. But if the Fed is pushing oil price artificially low, then what is there to stop oil shortages from happening? There is only a few weeks' worth of above ground supplies. The answer to this is in part their low interest rate Wall Street ponzi schemes that fuel the kinds of unprofitabe unsustainable booms like the tight "shale" oil. This is why I think this bubble may go on for a bit longer than many think, since the artificial oil production there is crucial to the Fed's strategy. I envision them stepping in and doing whatever it takes to keep the wells going.

Basically, the Fed tries to do everything it can to manipulate markets to make it easier to both consume and to "produce" stuff, which is having the disastrous result of draining the world of its resources without prices reflecting this shortage, which is what prices are supposed to do. The other way it maintains supply is of course through its overseas dealings with Saudi Arabia and other sympathetic petro states.

This is why I think that when the whole financial bubble pops and the dollar dies, it is going to be a much faster and much worse collapse than many people imagine. The reality that has been hidden for decades, i.e. that the US in particular and the world in general is running really low on oil, will be laid bare.

heather said...

@ wolfvanzandt and thrig- You both are causing me to snort my tea. My hub can't figure out what I am laughing at while reading a "doomer" blog. I can definitely identify, both with the Walmart lane blues and the sometimes-tediousness of trying to process and prepare local food (not to mention get the family to eat it!). Both sets of experiences have left me ready to invade somebody!

Marcello said...

"Can you get "too balkanized" for a fight - especially if the ruling majority is less than 1% (including their preatorian guard) in manpower?"

It usually takes a pretty broad coalition for a succesful revolution and as a matter of fact it is more the exception than the norm. For instance 1789 happened because the monarchy had alienated a fair chunk of the nobility in addition to the third estate.
Plenty of èlites have managed to treat their subjects as dirt for very long periods of time without the latter being able to mount an effective challange.
That you could get the necessary alliances for such task in a country made up of ethnic groups looking at each other with mutual suspicion is a rather difficult proposition.

"Marcello, no, there I think you're mistaken. This is a long game, and who temporarily ends up in power in Kyiv is not the most important scorecard."

Oh, Russia could well do OK in the long run. But in terms of what happens in the short and medium term this war is rather unfavorable.

Phil Harris said...

All
Heather wrote: "My anguish is that we (as a society) cannot afford to waste that energy and drive [of young people]. It's just as bad as wantonly burning fossil fuels...."

From 6000 miles away I endorse that. A retd. person who had previously worked in farming told me recently the experience and wisdom of an old farmer friend who had expressed it thus: "My best ever investment was the team of men I had."

best
Phil H

Risto said...

Hi JMG!

I commented here about month ago and asked your opinion about Chesterton. Glad to see he's been brought up in the conversation after that. There are just so much overlappings in the things Chesterton and you handle, that it would be shame not to hear your enlightened opinions about his work somewhere.

Nastarana said...

Dear Ray Wharton,

Having you considered adding the maintainance of garden tools to your bag of skills? I would love to be able to have my tools sharpened and the wood conditioned, for a fair price, by an honest and capable person who would not be counting up how much the tools might bring at the local flea market.

You might also consider nursery stock. The technique called Winter Sowing, a revival and rethinking of an ancient technique, is marvelously productive. You need, some space, some containers--milk jugs and the plastic containers fancy salads come in--some soil and seeds. Voila, come late spring, strong seedlings in huge quantity, grown without pesticides of other chemical intervention. You could market them as bee friendly.

I also think that, going forward, people who can repair small machinery will be able to live well.

Varun Bhaskar said...

Archdruid,

You're right of course, there are many countries with the technical capabilities to pull off long-term destabilization. There aren't many with the financial capabilities, but that is changing. Once the dollar drops then we will really see things pick-up. The advantage for the US's enemies is that we're doing such a good job shooting ourselves in the...well, ever body part really. Will liberal democracy prove to be resilient enough to withstand those assaults? I have faith that enough people will eventually see the writing on the wall. Heck, I'm working to make sure that they do. I'm always a fan of liberal democracy. It will be a very slow game.

@ Marcello
If Putin keeps Crimea he's won. He has the energy resources and strategic port he wanted. Eastern Ukraine is the industrial heartland of that country, and it has been nearly completely destroyed. His goal right now is to hobble to countries economy so the west ends up feeding another basket-case. For more accurate information follow Ian Bremmer.

@ Everyone else

Weed, Porn, and Video games. I know a few too many people who indulge. Now days when we all get together we also zone out with music and videos on youtube. I have some of then smartest friends in the world, who have all become boring because they zone themselves out. I think they enjoy having me around because I'm the only one who pushes to talk about the world. At the very least I've made them aware of ERoEI, peak oil, and resilience. I've planted the idea of social clubs as economic and political power houses. Which reminds me, can anyone recommend some books about various fraternal orders that helped build the US?

progress4what said...

JMG, in my opinion you're setting up a false binary as regards events in Ferguson, and then defending that same binary when you say to Chris B, "....and police here in the US somehow manage to control noncompliant and belligerent white suspects perfectly well by those means; it's only when the suspect isn't white that emptying the magazine of a Glock into him becomes the first choice. Please stop and think...."

But I'm not asking you to defend your opinions in this case, your have already stated your reasons for them quite clearly.

My interest is more in what happens next, after Ferguson, and after the next similar sets of events in other declining towns like Ferguson.

Do not those who go about saying, essentially, "Cops only kill black men without consequence," bear responsibility for making the situation worse? We react as though Ferguson was exactly like apartheid era Selma, Alabama in 1914, instead of a declining mixed race town on the outskirts of Sanlo in 2014. We make it appear that justice comes only through protest and riot - if justice even comes at all. And if real justice exonerates the killer of a black man - the only outcomes should be more riots, more protests, and a deadly unending anger.

By repeating the meme that black men can never get justice from white law enforcement - do we not increase the decline, isolation, and paranoia of black communities - many of them already under severe stress because of uneven economic decline.

Because one of the next logical steps is to argue that only black police officers should be patrolling in majority black communities. And that does NOT take the United States to a good place.

Maybe that is the idea?

Brian Weber said...

I want to reply to Ed-M with a few additional facts.... Though the real reason I'm bringing these up is 1) looking squarely at what people went through in history may give insight into our future, and 2) to ask a question. So, for JMG and the commenters here: in the ongoing discussion on this site, what can help us prepare, not for the long-term post-industrial future, but simply for the world of our children's children's grandchildren, maybe just 100-200 years from now? The kinds of things I'll bring up below could be seen again.

Ok, so Justinian's wars were likely *not* the cause of the profound depopulation of Italy in the 6th C. In the space of roughly a single generation, 4 or 5 catastrophes affected that part of Europe, each of which would certainly be epoch-defining if it happened in another time. We seldom hear about these, possibly because records were not kept or governing structures failed to maintain continuity. Or possibly because we see little connection with the people in this corner of Dark Age Europe. Maybe we should.

Brian Weber said...

(Continued. Sorry for the length).

1. The general failure of crops in Europe starting in 536, due to a decade-long spell of global cooling (likely cause by an volcanic eruptions in SE Asia). Confirmed by tree ring and pond sediment evidence, the entire northern hemisphere experienced the sharpest cooling episode that can be found in tree-rings (meaning ~2000 years). The effect on human populations was as profoundly tragic as Europe's Great Famine of 1315-1318. (Byzantium itself was less affected because of its still-extensive trade networks---grain crops in Byzantine-controlled Egypt would have been scarcely affected.)

2. Yes, the Gothic Wars (c 535-553). With an army of no more that 20,000 imperial troops and maybe equal numbers of German and Italian allies, Belisarius took vast stretches of North Africa, Spain and Italy, all while Byzantine resources were predominately devoted to the Sassinid wars in the east, or preoccupied with even more pressing domestic matters, such as:

3. The badly-named Plague of Justinian (starting 541): the first global outbreak of bubonic plague. Whole areas of the world (from China to Europe to India to Africa) were depopulated. For a variety of reasons, the effects were likely worse than that of the Black Death (circa 1347). Census records of Byzantium show its empire had a population of ~26 million in 540, and under 17 million in 600. The human devastation of this event and its historical consequences (which I won't go into) can hardly be overstated.

4. Invasion by Allemanni Franks (starting spring 553). From the north came an army of maybe 75,000 Germans, lead by brothers Leutharus and Buccelin (notice the bastardized Roman names). Compared to the disciplined Roman troops (who did plenty of damage on their own), these would have seemed like a mass of axe-wielding maniacs. Nominally called in by desperate Goth leaders to fight Romans, their only real war aim was loot and the personal aggrandizement of its leaders. They did fight Romans (and lost despite vastly superior numbers), but apparently saw little value in respecting the lives or property of anyone in Italy, ally or foe.

5. Invasion of the Lombards (starting 563). Meeting little resistance in depopulated Italy (see points 1-4), they marched south, not in a military invasion, but in one of Late Antiquity's final migration-of-peoples episodes. This was not some kind of occupation---their aim was not to change governments but to settle. If you think they were likely to value peaceful coexistence with the locals (at least at first, before their taxation infrastructure was developed), then you should review some of the history of the period. This invasion was significant, in part, because unlike previous German autarks who basically co-opted the existing (though decaying) Roman infrastructure (tax collectors, administrative divisions, bureaucrats), the Lombards either found this in such disarray as to be unusable, or maybe just had no more respect for ancient Roman power and preferred to use their own systems. In any case they eliminated the remnant Roman bureaucracy and established their own systems of administration, and finally buried the corpse of Roman law and custom within their domains (though Byzantium retained some Italian territories for centuries).

rube cretin said...

JMG,


Reading the comments I note that four or five of the com-mentors have mentioned that they have or are reading Odum books or papers. What is this all about and how does it relate to your posts?

wolfvanzandt said...

Heather, Thanks.

You either laugh or you cry but laughing makes me feel better.

Progress4what, the thing that would really improve things in Ferguson and the rest of the world is if people just grow up. What should happen is that the white people should stand up with the minorities and very loudly protest the injustices. That - only that would calm the minority populations down - unity in the pursuit of freedom and justice. That is the only mature reaction and they should not respect less or be calmed by less.

It was not good when Presidents started proclaiming the security is more important than freedom.

I will dig out one of my favorite quotes from the distinguished Benjamin Franklin: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

As a retired community volunteer from Selma, Alabama I could relate a book of injustice - just things I've seen, but I don't have the space.

There is no excuse at all for the US to turn into a police state. There is no excuse for injustice from this government. I despise the philosophy of Leviathan. Citizens do not exist because of the State and the State does not have the right to do what ever it wants to it's citizens. The citizens are the means and the ends of the State.

Redneck Girl said...

@ Ray Wharton, why don't you consider building yourself a gypsy caravan? You can buy a light trailer from Harbor Freight, if you have them where you are. I don't have the address but you could search on facebook for a site where a couple built several for camping. (Also search for Vardo.) They're light enough for him to move them around without any mechanized help. I imagine it might be quite a workout but in theory anyway you could pull it with your bike if you wanted to move it.

Or if you feel really ambitious or flush a micro house on wheels? Around here I've seen an old camp trailer frame, in good shape, complete with axles and wheels for $500. It would behoove you to rent or buy a car or truck heavy enough to tow it just to move it or relocate to a different area. I know it sounds like a big investment but it would be better than just a sleeping bag on the cold ground. With a couple of heavy duty hinges you could build a porch that folds up against the front door for traveling but rests on the tongue when it's parked. The house itself could be built for storage of tools, small parts or anything else you want to take with you as well as provide a place to do some work out of the weather.


@ Ursachi, You might want to tell your friends to keep American politicians, lawyers, Corporate execs and Elves in the same group when dealing with them. Keep your hand on your wallet, especially when you shake hands with them and leaven their promises with a forty pound livestock salt block when negotiating with them. (Because they won't say what they mean!) Check your fingers too, make sure they're all still there! This is from someone with some American Indian ancestry, so I know whereof I speak!


Wadulisi

Shane Wilson said...

@Joe
During the 19th century, the South and Northeast was much more influenced by trade than the hinterlands of the Midwest. The South particularly was focused both culturally and economically on Britain, and the academic and literary elites of the Eastern establishment were particularly focused on Britain, so as British English changed, for example, becoming non rhotic, these changes were reflected more in Southern and Northeastern dialects (hah-vahd, for example) while Midwestern English retained the rhotic sound (har-vard) So Midwestern is the older, more archaic form, less influenced by changes in pronunciation in Britain. Of course, 100 years of standardization of Midwestern by mass media, and the prestige that accent caries in the U.S. have gone a long way to reverse regional accents elsewhere. I've read that the northern Midwestern accent of Minnesota is the least changed of any accent over time.
@Janet
I read when the 2000 census came out that southern cities were the least segregated. They did this by comparing racial composition by zip code, determining how many people would have to move from one zip to another to balance out the segregation. The most segregated cities were in the Great Lakes area, I believe. Not sure if the same study was performed after the 2010 census, and if it showed changes. The point I was making was that the Southern experience and history has a lot to teach us in an age of decline and collapse, and it can be a window in our own country about the misguided effects of our own imperial blunders trying to remake the world in our image, but to do so requires setting aside the straw man, scapegoat South, and taking a nuanced, objective view.

Cherokee Organics said...

Hi JMG,

Ooooh, the teaser! Many, many thanks. Very enjoyable. Yeah, I'm looking forward to your next fictional book.

That sounds a bit fan-boy, but I really enjoyed Stars Reach.

Incidentally, I'm not sure that it is just my perception, but in the US media, I noticed that they call the "Police" - "Law Enforcement". When did that happen? Is this just my imagination?

Also, down here, somehow the "Legal System" recently became "The Justice System".

Words have such a strong pull on our imagination and thoughts. It is a bit 1984 really for my liking.

Cheers

Chris

PS: I've just updated my weekly blog with lots of cool photos and some interesting text on firewood of all things: Break through

Cherokee Organics said...

Hi Kutamun,

Mmmm, that's a bit rough. The police here have gone way out of their way to work with many minority and immigrant groups. You should perhaps check out what they are doing here with the Sudanese youths for just one example.

I wouldn't overly worry too much about the Occupy groups as they achieved very little (from my perspective) relative to the hype.

Most of the real world events go unnoticed.

Cheers

Chris

Cherokee Organics said...

Hi Roger,

It is more complex than that.

If you look at the history of Australia for example:

1788-1850 - convict era

1850-1890 - gold rush era

1890- Severe economic depression

1914-1918 - World War One

1929-1939 - Great Depression

1939-1945 - World War Two

Mate, the only thing I take out of the above is that it is possibly only the Baby Boomers and their descendants that escaped great tumult during their early adulthood to go on to have families, reproduce in large numbers etc.

I would suggest that you would do well to consider that recent times are not the long term norm.

Also, I consider that perhaps a male having a family will reduce that person’s ability to be able to rapidly adapt to any future changing circumstances. This is an opinion only though.

I'd welcome your thoughts on the matter.

Regards

Chris

RPC said...

re. the conversation btw. exiledbear and Ray Wharton: "The Baby Boomers are almost panicked by the thought that a young person might not want to give up on ideals." Many baby boomers are almost panicked by the thought that a young person might take their job! My immigrant parents impressed on me the virtues of thrift and savings; it will still take all my savings plus much of my income if I work until I'm 70 to get three children through college without debt, which is the least I can do for them. The average boomer, neck deep in debt and no savings to speak of, is in truly dire straits. (Actually, we're all in pretty dire straits; whether we choose to cooperate or turn on each other, though, is up to us.)

Ed-M said...

Shane,

Traditional cultures that set aside roles for their queer people and celebrate their differences are few and far between these days, thanks to the proselytizing efforts and takeovers by Christianity, Islam and even Communism, the last being a Religion of Progress heresy from Christianity. Most traditional societies in the present world insist that they don't exist; so do a lot of modern societies ( like Russia). The USA used to be on the same page as these societies, even as recently as the late 1960s, hence the push for LGBT equality for the past 45 years.

Ed-M said...

JMG,

I'll have to see if that book is at my public library, or the one in the parish (=county) next door. I suppose I'll be pencilling in "Right!", "Exactly!", in the margins...

Rhisiart Gwilym said...

To Patriciaormsby's facinating piece of information: a suggestion for a possible reason -

Russia leaders have just decided, it seems, that they're going to shift the focus of their foreign energy sales eastwards, principally to China. But plenty of other smaller countries in China's vicinity need some of that oil and gas too, Japan very much being one.

The blind love affair of Japan's ruling layer with nuclear is now over. Fukushima Daiichi has seen - and is still seeing - to that. Japan now finds itself in a state of carefully stifled panic: Where is the energy going to come from? How are they going to pay for it? With whom can they - perhaps - make the bi-lateral, USD-bypassing trade agreements which are becoming so popular amongst the BRICSAs and other countries?

Countries the world over are recognising that the US is mutating - helplessly, irreversibly - into a paper tiger, which will no longer be able to guarantee and enforce the global trade, finance, and energy environments that have existed for some decades now.

Japan NEEDS some of that Eurasian petro, desperately. And Putin and the Putiniki are reasonable people who are willing to arrange such deals fairly, with fair and international-law-abiding partners. (Why do we suppose that Putin uses that word so persistently?)

So maybe Japan's bosses have come to see that they'd better stop mouthing the US line on everyting all the time, and start being a bit more evidence-and-courtesy based in their dealings with Russia?

High time, if they have.

Rhisiart Gwilym said...

PS to my just previous comment on Patriciaormsby's story:

Expect Germany to become the next country after Japan to come to its senses about Russia - and about Ukraine. And expect a domino-fall of other European states to follow Germany's example, with - probably - England being one of the last, and dragging my country - Cymru - with it for a while longer. Scotland, with luck, will be reconstructing itself as a newly-independent small NWEuropean state by then (with quite a bit of oil still in the kitty!) and a sensible willingness, before long, to make a sensible arrangement with the Eurasian customs union, to Scotland's considerable benefit.

That same liberation from the wretched rump-uk-state - the final fag-end of the dead English empire - can't happen too soon to Cymru too, along with its own application to join the customs union, which Putin describes as ultimately stretching - he hopes - from Lisbon (and Caerdydd!) to Vladivostok. I may even live to see some of that happening...

exiledbear said...

why don't you consider building yourself a gypsy caravan

I'd suggest buying a used bus or RV and fix it up. Or if you're careful and patient, you might get some clunker someone doesn't want anymore for free.

That could be a viable means of housing, provided it's done carefully. You don't want to stay parked too long at any one place and there's always a chance that a cop will identify you as some degenerate hippie and if there's one thing a cop hates almost as much as black people, it's hippies. Don't ask me why, I kinda do wish I knew where that hate comes from on the cop's part toward hippies. They're some of the most harmless people on the planet.

Actually I remember a previous discussion somewhere - there's one or two lodges (sorta kinda like the Masons) that if you can get membership, they will let you camp in the parking lot of their lodge with your RV. And the membership fee isn't onerous, IIRC. Protected zones like that would be very important to keep off the cops' radar.

That could be a viable way of falling through and hiding in the cracks. You have to be careful about alternative housing, you'll find that the laws of the land are carefully structured to allow nothing but expensive houses that require mortgages with the other alternative being homelessness and police brutality. That's not an accident the regs were written thus. They don't call it wage slavery for nothing.

It is possible to fall through a crack, but you do need to think carefully and plan your moves.

Anne Patterson said...

Regarding the likely imminent demise of the fracking bubble in the US. The hype is still going here in the UK, with examples such as this http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/fracking-uk-sustainable-energy-market although admittedly this was from a few months ago. I have some concerns that companies and investors will buy into fracking in the UK as having supposed potential to produce lots of gas & make lots of money whilst improving our energy security https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fracking-boom-insulate-europe-against-cold-war-095237109.html#ZnzaUmt keep the lights on http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/get-fracking-mps-back-the-dash-for-uks-shale-gas-8676040.html whilst making gas cheaper for consumers and creating much needed jobs. All the major political parties in the UK are pro-fracking, so there is little likelihood of a change of government policy on fracking, even if the next general election in 2015 results in a change of Government. The 14th Licensing round has just opened for applications for licenses for areas in 60% of Britain for potential fracking http://www.insideenergyandenvironment.com/2014/07/uk-parliament-announces-the-14th-landward-licensing-round/

The industry is still small in the UK and is facing stiff opposition wherever it goes. But the companies involved and their pals in the Government are trying every trick in the book to force this toxic unsustainable industry on the country including weasel-worded planning applications, bribes to local communities and heavy-handed policing against activists using direct action to slow down operations at fracking sites.

Campaigners are fighting on multiple fronts against fracking and other extreme fossil fuel extraction methods such as coal-bed methane and underground coal gasification which are being used or proposed in the UK. Our principal targets are local authorities which have the powers to grant or deny planning applications and investors, the more we can delay the industry and increase costs for even exploratory operations to less attractive the industry is going to be to investors.

The industry does seem to be on the back foot here in the UK with even the more right wing papers publishing critical articles about the effects on the environment, on house prices and on the risky nature of investments in fracking & fossil-fuels generally.

So I hope the bubble bursts soon and hard and that it will stop this toxic industry from contaminating any more water supplies. I accept the knock-on longer-term effects on the economy will not be good and will make my position as a public sector employee in community health services more precarious. But I and my husband are pursuing our own personal divestment campaign by gradually switching how we live to sustainable home produced resources as much as possible as well as engaging with campaigning work to alert our local and spiritual communities to the dangers of extreme fossil-fuel extraction and the need to change how we live to use less energy in the first instance and change where that energy comes from in the second instance.

Cherokee Organics said...

Hi JMG,

I'm a bit grumpy today! Last night I was awoken again by the loud and very creepy sound of a: Masked Owl

I originally thought that the blood curdling screeching noise was a sugar glider, but I was wrong a few weeks back and misidentified the sound. Not so anymore!

It wasn't being woken up that has left me grumpy either.

It is hard to explain my grumpiness, but there are now apex predators here both during the day and now at night. A masked owl can be half a metre tall (20 inches)! They're big and before the past couple of weeks, I've never heard that call here before. The birds are listed as vulnerable too.

My grumpiness is just I can't go to the local council and say: "hey, things are on the up here, so frack off and leave me alone to get on with the job - it seems to be working". Putting together an ecological management plan would be massively expensive and probably unlikely to succeed. The rules about land management here are ideologically driven and are completely failing to fit the facts on the ground.

The rules basically say: do nothing. The reason for the do nothing approach is because it is cheap and forces the costs onto both the community and insurance companies. The result of doing nothing has happened before many times and it results in wildfires which change animal and bird populations as well losing habitat. Birds and animals only live in and on the older larger trees here.

Honestly, sometimes I feel that the local government people work in climate controlled offices, mostly live in town and cruise around in brand new vehicles all of which I'm paying for through the rates system. However, to challenge them is like an energy sink, that they're both well prepared and well resourced for. Stupid idea really, best to take a wait and see approach and try something unexpected.

Cheers

Chris

Unknown said...

(Deborah Bender)

@Cherokee Organics--Officialdom here likes to replace all simple Anglo-Saxon words with Latinate phrases, e. g. "low income" or "economically disadvantaged" instead of "poor", and the media parrot this language. Partly motivated by an intent to prevent clear thinking, partly to avoid giving offense, partly to show off their sociology degrees.

However, the two terms you mention have better reasons than that, I think. Local law enforcement in the U.S. is divided between town and city police forces and county sheriff's departments, who serve the same function as police forces in unincorporated parts of the county. When there's more unrest than a local police force can deal with, mutual aid agreements call in police from neighboring jurisdictions and if things get really bad, the sheriff's deputies. (Fire departments have similar mutual aid arrangements.)

This arrangement is so entrenched that San Francisco is officially The City and County of San Francisco. The city and the county have identical borders; the SF Police Department does the policing and the Sheriff's Department runs the jail.

"Law enforcement" is short for "police, sheriff's deputies and the FBI".

I think "justice system" is short for "criminal justice system", it being understood by all that verdicts in civil courts have little to do with justice.

Shane Wilson said...

@Ed
I'm hopeful that the new, post-progress, post-abrahamic, ecology based religion returns to pagan celebration of life, including sexuality in all its many forms. I'd love to plant the seeds of that sensibility. :)

Phil Harris said...

JMG
I have just put a comment on Ugo Bardi's Resource blog.

His post on UFO writing refers to you and promises a later review of your book.

I was interested in his reference to Melanesian cargo cults. I had just read Mary Douglas discussion in Natural Symbols of the cults and posted a comment for Ugo.

I guess that such cultural "millennial" manifestations as "cargo" are relevant to our present discussions of the social situations we inhabit.

best
Phil H

Bogatyr said...

Rhisiart ap Gwilym wrote: hat same liberation from the wretched rump-uk-state[...] happen too soon to Cymru too, along with its own application to join the customs union, which Putin describes as ultimately stretching - he hopes - from Lisbon (and Caerdydd!) to Vladivostok.

Clyw, clyw! (Or, in English, 'Hear, hear!). Perhaps from Holyhead to Hong Kong...?

exiledbear said...

I think "justice system" is short for "criminal justice system", it being understood by all that verdicts in civil courts have little to do with justice.

But it has everything to do with billable hours. The defense is as much or even more so a part of that system than the prosecution.

It's basically a jobs program for lawyers. Imagine if construction wasn't about building anything but just providing billable hours to construction workers. Or if farming wasn't about growing food...

Ray Wharton said...

@Heather - Thank you for your post. I realize that much of what is blocking me is my own sense of shame about the awkward fact that I cannot follow my ideals and please the people I know and respect at the same time. It is uncomfortable that I am in a situation where ask help from people while rejecting their attempts to guide me back into the fold. I do receive much support from various parts of the community, my garden space from the Haas family is especially valued. My bitterness is squarely targeted at those who want me to get back on the Titanic.

@Nastarana & Redneck Girl - Basic tool maintenance is something I have a fairly good grasp on, the next step is to get a sharpening kit I can keep safe in a bike vardo maybe :) . I am also going to try learning some more domestic skills this winter to be a more welcome house guest. Putting myself out there is the thing I find most difficult, it is amazing how isolating not having a cell can be, maybe I should make cards or the like.

As for winter sowing, I have a lot of windows I am thinking about turning into some mini green houses. I made an excellent one last year for a retired couple, they had me over for dinner a couple times for that. I have not done much green house work yet because that requires stabulity, which is the most difficult thing; there are farms I help some times where I work in their green houses to learn the skill even if I don't feel ready to care for a whole life phase of such little plants.

@RPC - Boomers are concerned about the job market, aren't we all, but the dispute I have run into is on a different point. I think it is wounded idealism I see, especially because the individuals I have been taking to are very far from threatened by me for a job, the issue is that I am not interested in competing for their jobs or their life styles. "Eventually you will want a family, wife and kids, and you will buy in, not sell out, buy in." - paraphrased from several different conversations.

@all- concerning the distractions: I think that we should also be careful not to judge too harshly. I prepared some of this reply at a millennial friends house. He smokes quite a bit, and is a skilled craft man whose job is relatively sustainable and he is obsessed about the childrens cartoon Avatar the last Air Bender. I guess if it works for someone thats fine. I feel a bit outcast being a Colorado youth who cannot handle his weed, it is similar to not drinking in certain other cultural contexts. Charming smoke, but my memory is too susceptible to its effects.

Redneck Girl said...


8/25/14, 12:13 PM

exiledbear said...


'why don't you consider building yourself a gypsy caravan'

I'd suggest buying a used bus or RV and fix it up. Or if you're careful and patient, you might get some clunker someone doesn't want anymore for free.

@ exiledbear, except Ray is trying to keep his carbon foot print down. An old RV or Bus isn't exactly up for that. True, a diesel engine will last almost forever if it's taken care of and they are generally really good on fuel mileage but they have a big carbon foot print. (I should know, I have driven school bus! From full size down to a van.) Besides a used RV or bus is extra time from what Ray is doing, I'm not sure if he would want to spend that much time in maintenance and money. A gypsy caravan is relatively cheap to build, light for ease of movement, a good place to sleep and for storage of his belongings.

Regardless of what anyone thinks,including me, it will still be entirely up to Ray.



Wadulisi



Roger said...

Hi Chris

I read your comment and gave it some thought.

First a "disclaimer" (if that's the right word). My education was focused along technical lines, the reading I've done since has been mostly work/professionally oriented. Which is a round-about way of saying I'm not well read.

Having said that, I have done SOME reading as time allowed. And I've had a long career that taught me things about people and the world. And one of those things is that human behavior is highly variable from one individual to the next and one society to the next. To my knowledge the sociological realm has never reduced the actions of individuals to equations the way that Dirac did with sub-atomic particles. Nor, for social groups the way that Einstein did with celestial bodies. Which is a very roundabout way of saying that you make a very good point.

I agree with both you and JMG: it's complicated. Human behavior resists being boxed and systemized. Circumstances and attitudes and societies change and what theory of behavior applies in one period in history to one group of people may not apply to other groups or other times. As exiledbear pointed out, there's a sizable contingent of young men happy to piddle away their lives in front of computer screens. No abyss of rage and despair for them.

Now, having said all THAT, I think that though the theory about society's needing to occupy young men's energies with work, wife and kids may not always apply, there's been events in history that suggest that a surplus of un-occupied young men became a menace. Could the anti-dote have been societal building projects as JMG suggests or something as simple as a patch of land and domestic bliss (which isn't necessarly so simple but does occupy a lot of effort)? In any case, first and foremost is the need to make a living. In the absence of a way to get the necessities of life, things can get nasty real quick.

But it's easy to over- interpret or mis-interpret. We see events and see causal connections whether they're actually there or not. So what caused the many headed throng to come thundering out of Asia on their shaggy horses in late antiquity? What caused the Vikings to go viking?

exiledbear said...

all of which I'm paying for through the rates system

I think it was Bundy who poointed out, if you're paying someone to put you out of a job - stop paying them...

Shane Wilson said...

Re: Ferguson
One thing that we may have touched on is the failure, or rather, limits of a top down civil rights movement to achieve equality in a declining/collapsing society. My guess is, according to what JMG has said before, is that this is one more thing we must preserve for the future, and personally practice in our own lives. Maybe there's a tie in between the discussion about Ferguson and his upcoming post on ethnic shredding and reconfiguration in dark ages. Maybe the future belongs to those who sidestep ethnic fighting and withdraw from such fights.

progress4what said...

wolfvanzandt - I appreciate your service in Selma. I have also served.

And I agree with you when you say, "... really improve things in Ferguson and the rest of the world is if people just grow up. What should happen is that the white people should stand up with the minorities and very loudly protest the injustices. That - only that would calm the minority populations down - unity in the pursuit of freedom and justice. That is the only mature reaction...." - wolfvanzandt -

Totally agree concerning unity in pursuit of freedom and justice!

So you and I have worked for freedom. Good for us, right?
And justice? Sure thing. Have you ever served on a jury, wolfvanz?
I get the feeling that you and I could work together on a jury to find justice. We might came at it from different angles, but we could find justice - even in this contentious case that JMG referenced in Ferguson, MO.

At least neither you nor I has uttered a prejudicial statement on the Ferguson case - at least not into the digital record here at the ADR this week.

JMG, now - maybe not so much. Based on what you've said here, JMG, you could NOT fairly serve on that jury. You have reached a verdict, based on your own life experiences - the cop is already guilty in the JMG digital courtroom (err, living room), - - signed, sealed, delivered - judge, jury, executioner??

Anyway - someone might now write in to defend JMG, but there's no need. This is not an attack. The man has stated his opinion and that is that. No problem. Just don't believe if you think to defend our host on this topic that you are necessarily impartial or accurate.

But the idea that your readers will defend you, JMG, takes us to the tribal nature of the internet, and thus to the tribal nature of life. You have 250,000 unique page views per month, but only elicit 250+/- comments every week? That's very interesting. From this raw data, you have only ONE commenter for every 250 readers. That's an amazing statistic, and it means your commenters are a rarified subset of a rarified subset indeed. Internet behavior would make a fascinating research topic.

And the tribal nature of life, you ask? All humans have the potential for tribalism, which potential can be exacerbated by social stress. Is Ferguson a canary in this coal mine? If so - what does this tell us?

Along with peak oil, and peak everything else - are we reaching, or have we already passed, "peak social trust."

Somewhatstunned said...

@ Rhisiart and Bogatyr

Siarad fel Sais ... (speaking as an Englishman) I am in agreement. England *could* be a fine country, if it weren't the dominant partner in a set of unions which enables it to pretend to be a "world player" rather than than a small and clever country with an interesting past.

What the UK does is *not* to "punch above its weight", but to swagger about in the fond belief that it's the school bullies best mate.

streamfortyseven said...

Ferguson is very much like Jennings - or the other municipalities in the North County: they're predators on the majority of their populations. The local government is all white, and the population they feed off of is black - and some poor whites and Hispanics. Enough of their population is effectively disenfranchised by criminal records and the like that change by voting is virtually impossible. Even if it were possible, it's all in who counts the votes that holds the power - and that's the current white power structure. They're not likely to allow meaningful change. Between 25% to 50% of the governmental income in these places comes from fines, fees, and court costs levied on the people who live there who can't afford a lawyer - the government chooses the people who are least likely to be able to put up any fight in court to hit with traffic tickets and other lucrative misdemeanor charges. The municipal court in Ferguson, for example, "heard" slightly over 12,000 cases in 108 hours of court time last year. That's a bit under 120 cases per hour, or roughly 30 seconds per case. If defendants are represented by counsel, that 30 seconds would go up to at least 5 minutes... or more, especially if a "not guilty" plea is entered, so that court is a sham. The same holds for a lot of the other municipalities in that area. The police forces are of course well armed and brutal, which keeps the population subjugated. So far, there's been no armed resistance of any sort beyond the rioting that's been seen over the past few weeks.

If the people there decide to start shooting back with effect, then that would be a game changer, but that hasn't been seen so far. It's really not the sort of thing to wish for, either, given the fact that urban St Louis and the wealthy close-in suburbs are within blocks of extremely poor black ghettos - look up "Delmar Divide" on Google, or look at the neighborhoods on the south of Delmar Boulevard as opposed to the neighborhoods on the north side - there are multimillion dollar homes within 100 yards of slums.

Cathy McGuire said...

I think this is relevant to the discussion:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/27/us/politics/obama-pursuing-climate-accord-in-lieu-of-treaty.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

The Obama administration is working to forge a sweeping international climate change agreement to compel nations to cut their planet-warming fossil fuel emissions, but without ratification from Congress…. To sidestep that requirement, President Obama’s climate negotiators are devising what they call a “politically binding” deal that would “name and shame” countries into cutting their emissions. The deal is likely to face strong objections from Republicans on Capitol Hill and from poor countries around the world, but negotiators say it may be the only realistic path.

Not trying to get political, but this is possibly how it would look when/if someone is power tries to get some movement on dealing with climate change/peak oil, in a situation of much denial - it would seem to be political suicide, so it has to be in a lame-duck period... it's probably got a snowball's chance in Hell... but we may see similar sporatic attempts as the situation gets more clear and in our faces.

On another topic,Cherokee said: The dirty little secret is that an escalation culture is only possible when you have more energy to expend on an issue than your opponent.
And this is clearly true on an individual level also – corporations swinging elections, and even battles between individuals – if one has the power/energy to overwhelm the opposition, that is usually the first choice, even when there are other options… and thus, as energy for all of us declines, there might come a change in the way Americans are used to settling disputes. That might be interesting to watch.

And now I have to get outside and start butchering chickens for winter's meat. I'm as ambivalent about that as any typical suburban-raised "modern", but that's where meat comes from and I want to take responsibility for my choices. I'm a failed vegetarian and suspect I always will be, due to several factors.

MawKernewek said...

Whether living in an RV has a high carbon footprint relative to other lifestyles will depend on several factors, for example how much you are driving it, if you are commuting in it as well as living it, I can see it being quite thirsty in fuel, but if you can manage most of your daily travel needs with a bicycle it won't necessarily be a big footprint overall.

Raymond Duckling said...

I think this as more appropriate for previous post, and it is already pretty late on the week, but wanted to let you know anyways. This is about venture capital investors throwing money to nuclear:

http://recode.net/2014/08/19/biotech-nuclear-energy-startups-crash-y-combinator-demo-day/?utm_source=outbrainamp&utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=desktoptablet

From the article: “Our target demographic is people off the grid,” says Jacob DeWitte, UPower CEO and co-founder. “Think of remote communities in the Northern Arctic or Canada. All of these places that aren’t connected to large continental grids rely on diesel generators for energy. … We can bring them power in a small package and get them energy they couldn’t have before.”

If this succeeds, it seems yet another evil will be unleashed on the world. The total mass of spent rods will be smaller, but much more spread out. The dead zones being much more fuzzy than in JMG's analysis.

I am now praying for this to be a scam from these guys, and really hope they get a couple million to burn while goofing around and end up delivering nothing... but hope runs low these days.

RPC said...

@Ray Wharton: re. "wounded idealism" - well, sure - a significant fraction of those criticizing you were hippies or alternate-tech folks themselves back in the day. If you can survive without selling out, it means they might have, too.

exiledbear said...

I bet that UPower device is an RTG, the same devices they put on satellites to power them. Probably tweaked and engineered to be somewhat cheaper than what NASA usually pays for the things.

They work, they're proven, they're (relatively) safe - and they're expensive and uneconomical. Even more so than ordinary nuclear steam generators.

You notice they're only selling to people where money isn't really an object - .30/kWh is pretty expensive, the most anyone charges for a kWh usually is .15, and that's considered highway robbery in most places.

Then again, if you anticipate the grid going down and staying down, maybe .30/kWh might look cheap in the future? The future is always murky though and things never do quite turn out how you think.

nuku said...

@proigress4what: regarding your wish for research into the tribal nature of the internet, you might take a look at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/27/upshot/how-social-media-silences-debate.html?emc=edit_th_20140827&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=33756104&abt=0002&abg=1

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